I don't really know what to say about that. I wish there were more access to information about the matter - although, if this is a fix, it's hardly surprising that there isn't.

Joanna Greenberg, defending, said [...]"While we are referring to her as a female out of courtesy because that is how she wanted to be known. She was nevertheless a male with a man's strength and you would have thought that she, as a victim, would have fought her attacker but there was no signs."

I mean ... because anyone attacked by a prejudiced f*ckface isn't going to be at all threatened or terrified or hurt by yet more misguided disgust, are they? Not if they're a 'male with a man's strength'. GOD.

And if they're going to be all gender-prescriptive, then fine - isn't there a chance Kellie was taking oestrogen, and therefore not that 'male'?

ANGER

I am the one who has posted comments on many sites regarding Kellie Telesford whos name should be spelt Kelly. Quite a lot of my comments have been taken down as many publications do not like the truth, particularly that Poultry Rag the Pink News which should be supporting the LGBT community even if it gets egg on its face. I have been sticking my neck out for Kelly for I am all that she has to defend her. Many disbelievers would think that I was mad but unfortunately for them I am not. I have a Psychic ability which is still developing and thanks to Kellys immense power I am able to interact with her,it is a great honour . I am possibly the only one who is aware of Kellys last moments other than her murderer and I see in absolute clarity the magnitude of the injustice metered out to her. My comments are still displayed on Wikio Kellie Telesford News,Susans Transgender Forums,Queerty,Angels and Somebody got Murdered and perhaps some others,on these you will see how this all came about. Just to give you food for thought why would you think that I would travel four times to Leander Road and nine times to the Old Bailey from Nottingham via coach, tube ,rail and taxi all on individual days at my own expense if I were not driven by forces greater than of this world. And another thing that will rock many religious bigots is that Kelly was known before she was born and an elaborate safety net was laid out for her.

"Rodney A Ballard"'s argument clearly doesn't stand up. They drove to nottingham, but it doesn't mean what they believe is right. Just how, simply because someone flies a plane half way round the world to drops bombs on people, it doesn't mean what THEY believe is right. Doing something "dramatic" because of a belief doesn't make it any more legitimate.

So I do get your point. However plenty of things I believe are, or would previously have been, considered completely nuts by a lot of people. It's only with the withholding of anger by those people (I don't mean prettending to agree), that a certain degree of change has been made... and also it's pretty instrumental to me just generally being able to get on with people in my life, and being able to discuss my beliefs.

As very disturbing as someone's beliefs might be, I don't think it's fair to use aggressive language towards them, and if anything it's going to discourage them from thinking about mental health treatment. Which is a bad thing.

-- Edited by CrowJake at 13:35, 2008-09-08

the law is an ass and nfortunatley the judges are arseholes