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OK, some of you will have read this in the book I got the puzzle from, but if you have, don't spoil the puzzle for other people.


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"The Monty Hall Problem

You're on a game show on television. On this game show the idea is to win a car as a prize. The game show host shows you three doors. He says that there is a car behind one of the doors and that there are goats behind the other two doors. He asks you to pick a door. You pick a door but the door isn't opened. Then the game show host opens of the doors yo show a goat (because he knows what is behind the doors). Then he says that you have one final chance to change your mind before the doors are opened and you get a car or a goat. So he asks you if you want to change your mind and pick the other unopened door door instead. What should you do and why?
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The answer isn't as simple as it sounds. Will our Mathematicians work it out?




-- Edited by JohnK at 16:37, 2005-02-27

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my maths is good, but my english sucks, so i was confused the first time i read it, but now i think i must be missing something cos i can't see how you can work anything out. is it just a probability question, or a trick to make people look stupid?!

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I'm pretty sure it's a probability question, although considering my infinite crapness with anything maths-like, don't trust me on that one.

I'd go for changing my mind. Actually, I wouldn't. I'd stick with the original door. I'd quite like a pet goat.

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Well the question is what do you do?

Do you stick with the door you chose or do you choose the other door?

Why?

It is a probability related question, yeah. Which choice - sticking or swaping, will give you the best chance of winning the car?

*visions of Alice riding a goat into uni.....*





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surely the chance is 50-50?

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No, thats not the answer.

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i was thinking 50-50 too, since one door is already eliminated.



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you still have to decide which door you will choose.

And why

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but he doesn't ask you whether the door you choose will be the one he opens or the one he doesn't. simple trickery x

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simple, u twat him round head n open both doors b4 drivin off in the car...

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sounds good to me, then slap him once more for being a smug bastard

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nah u run over him 4 been a smug bastard then reverse over him just 2 make sure he gets the point

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john's told me the answer, and i kinda get it, but i'm still kinda unconvinced, despite all the links he sent me proving it.

sorry, john, if i annoyed you by being a stubborn bastard. please forgive me!

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i think i've heard this before. i don't remember what the answer is, but i do remember not being convinced by it.

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see i said its basically that u have 2 take on the bloke n open doors

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"john's told me the answer, and i kinda get it, but i'm still kinda unconvinced, despite all the links he sent me proving it.

sorry, john, if i annoyed you by being a stubborn bastard. please forgive me!
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He showed me those, who am I to argue with a load of maths experts?

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this might sound like a load of waffle, so i apologise in advance.

one of the explanations said that even though one door is open, it doesn't add any new information to the problem, and the probabilities don't change. but how can they not. if you can see that the car isn't behind the open door, how can there still be a 1 in 3 chance that it's there?

but i'm confused, cos i've now accepted what john showed me is right too. i give up.

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What I suggest everyone does is draw a probability tree showing all the outcomes. I have one on my computer if anyone wants to see it. Then work out the probability from there.

That will help you choose the correct door.

:)

And Mike, not I don't think your a stubborn bastard. Just Stubborn, sometimes :P



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