Only in America

ChrisH · Mmm eyebrows!

Only in America

Wilbur · Forum Guru

Thank the Lord there is a cure for this damn disease!

-- Edited by Wilbur at 13:29, 2006-06-17

Irish Dom · Forum Guru

You've got to be kidding - I nearly wet myself laughing. Or maybe thats a whole other disease or health issue. lol.

Jeni Jeni Jen Jen

I just love the picture on the front.

He's too happy now with his blonde wife and child, that he seems uninterested in his rainbow kite.

Tee hee hee.

"But Homosxuality is diagnosed only when these activities take at least an hour a day, are very distressing, and interfere with daily life."

Jeni

xx

Breconboy · Big Gay Al

I can't believe that reference to homosexuality as a disease can possibly be legal in America.

Shetty Pharmaceuticals is Indian/UAE run and the gay is still illegal over there.
Here's the man responsible.

http://www.namasthenri.com/NRIoftheweek/brshetty.htm

Luckily, Saturday Night Live produced this satire. It's irony limps along a little bit but it's the thought that counts.
http://www.commercialcloset.org/cgi-bin/iowa/portrayals.html?record=676

V. xx

-- Edited by Breconboy at 22:36, 2006-06-17

Polo fiend · Lord Gay Van Gay of Gayville

I am so puzzled by things like this; how can people think it?! It also makes me rather angry.

As if you could even "cure" homosexuality with a pill. I think anyone who believes it should be prescribed something stronger!!

Gemma · Poster

i can't believe this is serious! and that they could suggest electro convulsive therapy for it, I dread to think what sort of medication they are actually giving people. I can't believe thats legal, it makes me angry,
and i thought that drug companies making up illnesses to sell drugs was just a myth

Hani · Big Gay Al

or drug companies creating new bacteria to sell drugs maybe? beside that point i cant believe that thats actually legal! makes me really sad for all the ppl living in the states

the parodys quite good tho, very fitting

PatrickT · Forum Guru

Chris, I assume you do know that this is a hoax, right?

museum of hoaxes: hetracil.

I can never really tell with the stuff you post! lol

RainbowWarrior · Gay Lord

It's a good one though - I particularly like in the Frequently Asked Questions "What if my wife becomes pregnant whilst taking this medication?" The answer to which presumably is that you've been cured...

Breconboy · Big Gay Al

Eeew. Are you sure it's a hoax? There are so many other websites which refer to the companies involved in earnest.

But then, in retrospect, I don't see how any kind of psychoactive drug could target effeminacy.

What exactly is the motive behind theis hoax? I am all confuséd.

scarymary · Forum Addict

what i want to know is why are all the references to curing the disease about men?

meh once again lesbians are ignored.........

-- Edited by scarymary at 22:57, 2006-06-18

richardyoung71 · *Censored*

Ok, on a serious note, if there was a "cure" for homosexuality would anyone be tempted to take it? Kinda a bit x-men3-like, but wuddya??

saxyboy · Big Gay Al

So it's not for real then????

If you asked me at the age of 16 when I hated myself for it I would have taken any drug.

But now, Dam NO! You gotta like yourself for who you are! And hey I just love ***k

Polo fiend · Lord Gay Van Gay of Gayville

No I wouldn't take it.

Like Saxyboy, when I first came to terms with it I was pretty depressed cos I thought I was the only lesbian in Leeds! (how wrong was I!!)

But now I'm really happy with myself and all the gayness that surrounds it - queers are best! lol I do sometimes think though that it would be best to be bi, cos you're not closing yourself off to anyone then and are open to any relationship. But willies, ew.... lol

Rt hon NickyDyke85 · Lord of the Rings

When i wer coming to terms i'd have debated taking a 'cure' but then again i had 2 satisfy my curiousity n tried it... rest is history, i've been a loud proud gobby **** ever since.

ChrisH · Mmm eyebrows!

I think it would sometimes being a lot easier being straight... just because straight people seem to get into couples and stay together longer, or at least thats the case with my straight friends.

But I dont think I'd give up men! Women just dont look right with big eyebrows and hairy chests

JohnK · Pieces of me you've never seen

saxyboy wrote:

And hey I just love ***k

Muck? Duck? Hook? Cook?

Hmm, I wonder what he means!

@i'm just mad on cock i am@

Hani · Big Gay Al

hmmm, i would actually consider it i'm sorry to say. it would just solve all my problems regarding my uber religious family

chemicalfears · Queen of Quips

never ever ever ever ever ever.

it would be the most sinful dishonourable thing i could ever think of, to take a "cure" for my faggotry!

sash the gayest Arab in the village
xxx

scarymary · Forum Addict

don't do it Hani!!!!!!!

Polo fiend · Lord Gay Van Gay of Gayville

I can understand why people would be tempted, but I've just been insanely lucky in that everyone has been pretty fine with it! *touch wood* lol

I don't know about the straight couples lasting longer thing tho, but maybe that's just with lesbians. Cos generally lesbians do tend to get into long-term relationships... actually, thinkin about it, I conclude it just very much depends on the people involved and what the situation is!

x

Hani · Big Gay Al

sorry to burst the bubble but found this online. o well, guess we'lll just have to continue the gayness. and, uh, sash, i am the gayest arab in the village and dont u forget it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetracil

Hani · Big Gay Al

sorry to burst the bubble but found this so i guess we'll have to continue the gayness. and sash, i'm the gayest arab in the village, and dont u forget it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetracil

Breconboy · Big Gay Al

Hani wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetracil

So it would seem. Fûcking social commentators.

It's crazy to talk about homosexuality as a disposable part of one's persona, though. It's not like it's defined simply by same-sex desire and, of course, there's the homosexual/homosocial blur. Queers of my acquaintence exhibit such a diversity of feelings and experience that I rather feel the identity "gay" is a disasterous oversimplification, grouping together many quite diferent things.

And, as I have recently learned from old school friends, adolescence/life is frequently quite, quite miserable for everyone and if it wasn't the gay it would only be some other anxt, so it's not like any sort of weight would be lifted by said gay-ectomy.

And anyway, everyone loves us at the moment. look at day-time TV.

V. xxx

ChrisH · Mmm eyebrows!

I don't know about that... just look at Richard and Shabaz in Big Brother... I wouldn't say they were giving out a very good impression of gays. But then you have to be socially retarded to go in there in the first place

Breconboy · Big Gay Al

Indeed...

Shahbaz tells us

"I'm a wacky Paki poof without a corner shop."

Illiteration and assonance worthy of the bard himself. He also says he has never been in love and has never had a boyfriend as he thinks men are afraid of his flamboyant personality. Perhaps a combination of Military Service and ritalin might assist him?

And Richard

...is a Canadian born believer in Native Indian spirituality. He has a phobia of pregnant women and last cried watching Bambi.

Being gay seems to be the least of thier problems to me.

V. xx

chemicalfears · Queen of Quips

Hani wrote:

sorry to burst the bubble but found this so i guess we'll have to continue the gayness. and sash, i'm the gayest arab in the village, and dont u forget it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetracil

B1tch, I´m ready to fight for that title, and I pull, bite, scratch, and kick like a 6-year old girl who just got her babrie stolen - BE PREPARED TO LOOOOOOOSE!!!

lol

sash
xxx

p.s.(luv ya really : P )

Arsecandle · Admin Bitch

richardyoung71 wrote:

Ok, on a serious note, if there was a "cure" for homosexuality would anyone be tempted to take it? Kinda a bit x-men3-like, but wuddya??

yes

chemicalfears · Queen of Quips

Arsecandle wrote:

richardyoung71 wrote:
Ok, on a serious note, if there was a "cure" for homosexuality would anyone be tempted to take it? Kinda a bit x-men3-like, but wuddya??
yes

why?

sash
xxx

Hani · Big Gay Al

chemicalfears wrote:

B1tch, I´m ready to fight for that title, and I pull, bite, scratch, and kick like a 6-year old girl who just got her babrie stolen - BE PREPARED TO LOOOOOOOSE!!

Bring it on!

EmmaMase · Guru of the Gay

I wonder if lesbians took it would they then become more effeminate and so more gay? One does wonder...

indie_hunk · Guru of the Gay

Wow! And I thought ppl who took penis enlargement pills were stupid. I thought that was a joke.... until I met a guy who actually took it.

-- Edited by indie_hunk at 18:41, 2006-06-25

indie_hunk · Guru of the Gay

As for the question: "If there's a cure, would you take it." I would without a moment of hesitation. I think being gay sucks. Besides I don't think my sexuality defines me at all.

scarymary · Forum Addict

noooo it makes me sad that you say that corey.

it's not being gay that sucks!

it's society that sucks... meh

scarymary · Forum Addict

haha emma,tis a good job the pills do not exist just incase you accidentally took one and then combusted from uber gayness........hmmm just a thought.

aaargh i'm going crazy in blackburn

Breconboy · Big Gay Al

indie_hunk wrote:

I think being gay sucks. Besides I don't think my sexuality defines me at all.

Oh. This interests me.

How does gay suck for you? Is it a feeling of failure for not fulfilling the man and wife ideal? Or is it being linked to the alienating social label gay?

I don't think merely sleeping with guys would be such an issue, you know. It's the air-head-out-shopping/Barbara Streisand/bareback-on-acid stereotype which is so killer. How has this come about? It seems like straight men can only tolerate gay men by emasculating and categorising them: making them separate and ridiculous. I do think too many people play up to this in order to feel accepted.

This is such a probing thread. How does gay fit into selfhood and identity?

V. xx

chemicalfears · Queen of Quips

Breconboy wrote:

indie_hunk wrote:
I think being gay sucks. Besides I don't think my sexuality defines me at all.

This is such a probing thread. How does gay fit into selfhood and identity?

V. xx

With the judicious use of an XXL shoehorn and lots of WD40!

it has to be said, there are some truly sucky, even truly horriffic and traumatic, moments being gay - main thing is, i still love men, and i wouldn´t give them up for all the tits in brazil!!

sash
xxx

Breconboy · Big Gay Al

chemicalfears wrote:

With the judicious use of an XXL shoehorn and lots of WD40!

it has to be said, there are some truly sucky, even truly horriffic and traumatic, moments being gay

Ha ha

Without wishing to prod the personal bubble (or sound hopelessly naive), whaddaya mean? Homophobic attacks can't be alot of fun, obviously. But I wonder if the whole social alienation, fancying the unavailable, who-am-I traumas are shared by many straights too. In what way do you think trauma is specifically linked to one's sexuality?

V. xx

chemicalfears · Queen of Quips

Well, I could list some personal stuff for you, but i don´t want to bore or depress you, lol. The usual raised-as-a-catholic stuff (and i was a strong believer as a child), being cursed by a BISHOP no less, lol, dad telling sick gay jokes round the dinner table, multiple suicide attempts, blah blah blah ad nauseum.

it´s truly said, no parent WANTS their child to be queer (who wants pain, angst and general sh1ttiness for their child?), but also, after all I´ve been through, I certainly wouldn´t want to be hetero - it would sh1t on everything I´ve been through, and I know there are some things you can only understand through pain.

there is something many may not be aware of, but if you google or wiki it, you should be able to find what I´m talking about. a group of researchers actually carried out studies to determine in what way LGBT people can be defined as fundamentally different from heterosexual people. their results showed that the trauma experienced by almost all LGBT people, most importantly during coming-out (but also prior to), is so specific, that it can not and does not occur to heterosexuals. the major discovery is that this trauma, being so unique and specific, causes actual physiological change to the structure of the brain of the LGBT person. this physiological and psychological impact is, according to researchers, what fundamentally differentiates straights from queers.

possibly an opening for the fundies´ eternal "gay people are mentally damaged" argument, but it´s interesting, non?

sash
xxx

-- Edited by chemicalfears at 10:58, 2006-06-27

Arsecandle · Admin Bitch

i would because gay men are rubbish.

chemicalfears · Queen of Quips

Arsecandle wrote:

i would because gay men are rubbish.

thanks for that blanket statement mate.

scarymary · Forum Addict

Arsecandle wrote:

i would because gay men are rubbish.

teehee

Breconboy · Big Gay Al

Noo. You just need to sift through the garbage pile of skinny special K school boys and bomber-jacketed sex-offenders and (in the corner of the bar, eyeing everyone suspiciously) will be a nice, normal guy. Keep the faith, sister.

MrDarcy · Dame Poofy

there are nice gay men, most of them have boyfriends, or live in caves

Hani · Big Gay Al

hmmm, well i would tkae it just because it would make my life SO much easier what with avoiding possible honour killings from my family (o how i love being a muslim). However i think mary is right here, i dont think that it is necessarily being gay that sucks its just society's reaction to us thats sh1te. Most of the sucky factors u get from gay society are due to straight society's reactions and treatment of us. As we have no template for a stable and healthy relationship and general romantic outlook compared to straight ppl, and no real adolescent 'finding yourself' dating and shagging phase during our teen years to the same degree as straight kids, the majority of gay men go throught that phase at our age, and this leads to situations and certain people that make it generally sucky to be gay. not reallly sure whether that makes sense but hope u get my drift. If we were to be accepted completely as a normal section of society (which i sceptically dont see happening ever really) then we probably wouldnt have such problems dealing with our own group.

indie_hunk · Guru of the Gay

I think Hani is right. Some gay men do act as if their emotional growth has been staunched at adolescent, and maybe that's the reason. I have realized that few of us do elaborate average situation into tweeny-like social soap drama with lots of spats. Also, there's always those b1tchy queens who try to act quite pretentious, in order to try to fit into the 'b1thcy queen' label where they wished to adopt in order to 'fit in.'

chemicalfears · Queen of Quips

Hani wrote:

However i think mary is right here, i dont think that it is necessarily being gay that sucks its just society's reaction to us thats sh1te. Most of the sucky factors u get from gay society are due to straight society's reactions and treatment of us. .

That is so true I can´t tell you just how much...but equally, gay people don´t have to immerse themselves in excessive drug-taking, alcohol consumption, clubbing or barebacking in order to be gay...

Hani wrote:

As we have no template for a stable and healthy relationship.

Depends where you look; Achilles and Patroclus, Zeus and Ganymede, Hadrian and Antinous, Alexander and Hephaestion...though admittedly, those examples are almost all 1000 years old...

Hani wrote:

and general romantic outlook compared to straight ppl, and no real adolescent 'finding yourself' dating and shagging phase during our teen years to the same degree as straight kids, the majority of gay men go throught that phase at our age, and this leads to situations and certain people that make it generally sucky to be gay.

i agree on that one, as I always felt i missed out on proper growing up...nothing worse than seeing a couple in school and realising you can´t be in a couple...

Hani wrote:

not reallly sure whether that makes sense but hope u get my drift. If we were to be accepted completely as a normal section of society (which i sceptically dont see happening ever really) then we probably wouldnt have such problems dealing with our own group.

i´m skeptical too, because tbh, LGBT folk are only 10% of any population at any given moment...forever a minority really! (unless the entire world becomes bisexual overnight, which wouldn´t be a bad thing!)

sash
xxx

scarymary · Forum Addict

"Depends where you look; Achilles and Patroclus, Zeus and Ganymede, Hadrian and Antinous, Alexander and Hephaestion...though admittedly, those examples are almost all 1000 years old..."

wasn't Zeus going out with Hera when he got it on with Ganymede?

not a healthy relationship....

Jeni Jeni Jen Jen

Sorry, just to go off topic a wee bit... has anyone been to the exhibition in town about Antinous and his image? It's pretty small, but free! You should all go!

Now continue with the discussion.

Jeni
xxx