Can I just pass my own sincere condolences to the popular American vote, who did they all could to stop Mr Bush re-entering the Whitehouse, but ultimately couldn't do enough.
If theres one thing to be said, scant consolation it may be, is that to live through happier times, we've got to live through the bad times.
It just means that a maximum effort has to be put on evicting the Blair household.
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Anonymous my friend, my problem with Tony Blair FAR, FAR exceeds anything associated with anything associated with the war on terror, the war on Iraq and even gay rights.
Whatever Tony may have done for gay people, (and, I'm not going to express my ignorance at knowing what his personal stance his, I only know the Labour party's view at large), as far as I'm concerned this does not justify some of the other things that hes done.
If you wish to discuss the rights and wrongs of evicting Blair, then please feel free to contact me. However, having 'thought on', I'm still adamant on doing all I can to have him removed. (And I'm sorry anonymous, but if you think that Tony Blair is going to have the legacy of a bold and wonderful champion of gay rights, then,...well I can't finish that without sounding condascending.)
Anyway, we all believe in freedom of speech, and I look forward to debating this issue with you one day one-one! Steven. xx
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Ah Steven my dear friend, I see your well publicised mental health issues are just as bad as you frequently bore people telling them they are. (Ref: any number of egocentric, self-pitying posts on these boards).
The political reality of the situation is that TB has moved the UK forwards on a left of centre agenda. Specifically on gay rights; before TB came to power: Section 28 was still very much in force, the age of consent was still at 18, there was no legislation protecting gay people from discrimination in the workplace - you could still be sacked for being gay, and of course there was not a cat's chance in hell of civil partnership rights. Do you honestly think a John Major/William Hague Government would have changed anything?
I suggest stop and really think what you are saying before jumping on the nearest bandwagon.
Oh dear anonymous. Well, clearly I've touched a nerve, but, thanks all the same for reading my 'egocentric, self-pitying posts'. Well, if thats your opinion, 'dear friend', (do I detect a hint of sarcasm?), and you are absolutely resolute to these opinions, then please address your next post with your contact details.
If you want to debate the rights and wrongs of Tony Blairs leadership, then there are better ways of doing it than attacking me in ways that have nothing to do with the issue. I have a strong dislike of Mr Blair, and many of his policies and chracter flaws, and I will continue to exercise my right to condemn him for what I believe he is.
At no point have I suggested that I support conservative ideology, and there is no doubt of the good that has happened to the gay community through this governments legislation. I have strong liberal views towards gay rights as many other gay people have, and I support the actions that you have previously made. And, no, I do not believe that a Major/Hague leadership would have instigated many of these changes in law.
However, I suspect that I am slightly less attached to a bandwagon than you are. My views on Tony Blair are reached through a balanced argument of him, for and against, and I would never reach a conclusion of a person, right or wrong on a single issue such as gay rights, as important as they are to me.
You on the other hand, seem to believe in condoning Blair for the better purely on this issue, thus jumping on the 'gay bandwagon'. Pursuing support for someone, or condemning them for it, on one issue alone, is the entire concept of 'jumping on a bandwagon'.
Perhaps it is you who should consider that. And please, if you wish to condemn me for what Ive written on my mental health, please acknowledge who you are. It seems more believable then you see.
Yours patiently waiting for more abuse, Steven. xx
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nah, can't be bothered abusing you any more Steven. You are far too good at abusing yourself. Only you know the words your mind whispers to you in the darkness of the night; only you know just how much you hate yourself.
You have my pity, and my love. More than you will ever know.
Well, I certainly won't ever know if you don't identify yourself anonymous.
You know, I admit that I was slightly naive earlier. I actually thought that your issue with me surrounded my views towards Tony. It's pretty clear to me now, (albeit, it may well give you another opportunity to condemn my health problems) that you know who I am outside of these noticeboards, and wish to condemn because some offence I may have caused you in the past.
There is a very serious debate that exists and will continue, (I hope) in earnest, regarding Tony Blair's leadership of this country over the past seven years and his competence to continue into a third term. I will happily debate this issue with you or anyone else until I'm blue in the face. Only I hope it can be kept civil.
Whatever your issue with me, (and I don't much care what it is, or when it was formed), if you've something to say to me, then say it to my face, one on one. Not on these messageboards. My email is phy0stdg@leeds.ac.uk. Email me, and on my word, I will in total discretion, meet you and you can have out whatever you wish with me. And then we'll see if my suspicions are correct as to your identity.
Good luck, and my dearest love. Steven. xx.
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