I don't know if anyone other than Luke will have read Holy Moly's (its a bit like popbitch) mailout this week. So here is an article from it which I found particularly interesting...
"Lowri Turner – the drag act Chelsea Clinton – is possibly the most hated woman on UK TV. As if her hope-draining presenting skills and unappeasable neediness weren’t bad enough, she goes and writes THIS article.
What do you suggest we do with these ‘homosexuals’ and ‘bisexuals’, Lowri? Set their cocks on fire so they can’t use them in their ‘unspeakable’ sex acts?
It’s a good job that there are no homosexuals working in TV that can see to it that you never get another show in your life. Oh…"
Right, before I launch into a polemic, I´m going to apologise for any graphic language.
"Well, have you ever heard of a chap with a public boyfriend who has women on the side? Of course not."
........Yes, I have Lowri. I´ve even slept with a couple of them. One of them was married to my best friend. "They" exist. Are you scared yet, Lowri?
"Before I am accused of prejudice, I should say that not only are some of my best friends gay, but probably most of them are"
.........Right, this has to be one of my most HATED avenues of reasoning. It´s worthy of torture at best, and execution at worst, and I mean it. Fag-hags - and I don´t care who that term upsets - are some of the most homophobic people I have ever come across. They use their gay friends as an excuse to say the most hideous things, and it´s usually about lesbians, bisexuals and trans people, whilst preaching love and tolerance for their gay male pals.....as evidenced by my sister´s friends, and the majority of my own fag-hags. My sisters friends actually SPAT on the floor when I mentioned the word "lesbian", yet they all have a fag-bangle, to a woman. Lowri, do your gay friends like being the excuse for your sick diatribe?
"Their lifestyles are too divorced from the norm. They are not better or worse, but they are different"
.......Tell me Lowri, what IS "The Norm"? Are you governing it? A coalition with Maggie Thatcher in the offing? Got the velvet gloves filled with iron yet? There we have it folks - according to the latest statistics, "different" = EVIL. Oooooo, let me go repent! Really!
"My gay friends have not sat in accident and emergency with a small child. They have not had to make the decision over whether to give them MMR. They have not struggled to get their child statemented or gone through the schools' appeals process."
..........Has she ever met a set of LGBT parents? I bet they would have something to say to that pathetic piece of reasoning. Not to mention which, the children would also take issue with you inferring that their parents are wrong and incapable. Not only that, but having experienced the **** i did in school, if I have children, and I´m damned determined to, I´m going to fight their corner and care for them come hell, high water, or extreme conservatism. Who the hell gave Lowri Turner the Eternal and Unblemished Guide to Fool-Proof Parenting, Available For Heterosexuals Only? Oh that´s right - there ISN´T one! Go out and question gay parents Lowri, or are you afraid they might be better parents than you?
"However much I love my gay friends, I don't want them running the country."
..........."However much I love my straight friends, I don´t want them running the country". If I or any of you said that in public, we would most likely be harrassed for being heterophobic, and it would be used as an excuse to show that queer folk are evil and full of hate. In this case, I am. Lowri, would you rather be living with Robert Mugabe as your elected leader? Or George Bush? It can be arranged, you know....
And people wonder why I do not like living in the UK...Lowri, you´ve won. You get my most-coveted Bigot of The Month Award.
sasha, Lover of Righteous Anger xxx
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My main objection to this is that its not written by a respected political commentator, or lib dem mp, its writen by the woman who presents DIY SOS. What the **** does she know about sexuality in politics?
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ooooooooooooooohhh THAT one...i remember that one, especially the episode with the family whose entire ceiling was caving in under the pressure of rain water...and that was the ceiling INSIDE the house, not the roof, lol!
sash xxx
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I understand the comment about fag-hags having issues with people other than gay men, put it simply we're not a threat unless we're after the same bloke of course. I live with 4 amazing girls who are perfectly happy to live with and support me but react badly to the very idea of lesbians. The cries of disgust when Naomi admitted to Sonia that she liked her in Eastenders (yes I am ashamed to admit watching it) was beyond belief as they have no problem with me or other gay men. But then again most men have no problem with lesbians, well apart from sexual fantasies. It is all about issues of threat and simply put whilst straight men are afraid of gay men so straight women are afraid of lesbians. Bi-sexuality can either be seen as more or less threatening again depending on gender.
I don't think it's worth getting all worked up about to be honest. An E-list celebrity is desperately trying to spark a bit of controversy to revive her nonexistent career... And we're surprised by that?? I mean come on, she's not even famous enough to go on celeb big brother, all that she's managed is celebrity fat club!! And the "column" she's writing is essentially for the Welsh version of the Leeds Metro... I think she's only doing it for the reaction, so why give her that satisfaction?
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This reply on the forum for that website was pretty funny though:
A question for the editors - how could you publish such a blatant homophobic piece by talent enema Lowri Turner? It is really quite hard to imagine how she could possibly have been more bigoted. Perhaps next week we can hear her enlightened views of blacks, jews, the disabled and other people who may not be fit to run the country. Of course clearly only white middleclass 'normal' people like Lowri have experienced the real practical hardships of life that can make them eligible for work in high government office. Third rate lifestyle and dating shows and the undeniable trauma that is an appearance on 'Celebrity Fit Club' have no doubt enriched her ability to connect with the everyday experience of the majority of the population so much more than someone who sleeps with people of the same sex. Or it could just have left her a dozy talentless tart.
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Incidentaly Lowri has posted another column since the whole controversy including her own reaction to the debate:
"I SEEM to have outraged half of Wales with my comments last week about gay MPs. For those who didn't read them, I said I didn't want a gay man as a party leader or PM because I felt most gay men's lives were too different from the majority of the electorate.
Thanks to all those who took the time and trouble to write to me to disagree. When I wrote my piece I knew that I would upset a lot of readers and, as one correspondent, Chad Shiver points out, many of my gay friends too. But then I disagree with my gay friends about a lot of things. Some of them think gay men shouldn't be allowed to marry. I don't agree. Others think gay men shouldn't be parents. I disagree again.
What I write in this column is neither intended to outrage nor to soothe the opinions of others, friends or enemies. What all your letters have shown me is that many of you do likewise. Thanks again."
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Others think gay men shouldn't be parents. I disagree again.
Doesn't 'talent enema' somewhat contradict herself here? She said that gay men can't make good leaders as they aren't parents...... but she thinks gay people should be allowed to be parents?
This woman is off her face on somethin?!
I really don't need to go on on this forum about how utterly bloody mornic this woman is. Silly Bint.
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haha, are we going to put them in a Gay Court or something?
can we? can we?!
"You are hereby charged with degrading, subverting, and by negligent non-action, tarnishing the Outrageous And Most Splendid Name of Gay....TO THE GALLOWS WITH YOU, DISGRACED QUEENS ALL!!!!"
lol. what a world.
sasha xxx
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Well we already have the highest court in the land here in leeds. YOu cant get much bigger than the Queen's Court until lizzie pegs it then it will be the Kings COurt. However, charges need to be brought that are specific enough to convict without affecting anyone else Suggestions to the forum
Lowri Turner's gay friends are too busy debating whether or not to go for the cream sofa or the black sofa to realise their fag hag is about as accepting of gay rights as Michael Howard. Come on, would anyone with more than three brain cells be friends with Lowri Turner?
"Following last week's story about televisual pock Lowrie Turner 'unique' views on homosexuals in politics, a mole writes in to tells us some interesting details about her bedroom activities.
When she was fashion editor at the Evening Standard, she had a well-known love of a very odd sexual practice. Basically this involved her being shagged on a bed of used cigarette butts."
How dare such a pathetic never has-been like Lowri WHERE THE FUCK IS SHE NOW Turner even attempt to write anything on politics or gay issues. The sad cow is probably attempting controversy just to regain some sort of celebrity.
She talks about her gay friends as if they are totally representative of the whole gay population and then says we can't be politicians because we can't have children! WHAT THE FUCK!
Does that mean that someone infertile could never be Prime Minister?
Also, how the hell are these breeders supposed to truly represent us if we are so different?
ABSOLUTE BOLLOCKS
When I become the first Gay Prime Minister that bitch is being deported to Turkmenistan
Chris we have to tread carefully, we need a good reason to kill Linda Barker not just because she is annoying as who knows where that could end - Death of Noel Edmonds, Anne RObinson, Carol Vorderman ..... Every American who has ever lived.
A far better solution would be to sow her mouth shut leaving space for a feeding tube or simply cutting out her tongue. Facial disfigurement would also help to keep her off the telly, think the poisoning of Victor Krushenko.